Disengagement Plan is what the Armageddon war is about
Topic: Peace Process
Comment on STANLEY FISCHER - A MONSTER IN THE BANK OF ISRAEL by Barry Chamish chamish@netvision.net.il
13 Jan 2005 http://www.barrychamish.com(previous posting)

From the following statement by Barry Chamish it is clear that this Disengagement Plan is already a manifestation of what the Armageddon war is all about, namely to rob Israel of her wealth:
Somewhat surprisingly, one Israeli newspaper did make the connection between Fischer's IMF and the removal of Gush Katif from the Israeli map. On 22.10.04, David Bedein reported in Makor Rishon, that Giora Eiland, head of the Knesset National Security Committee, had made a disturbing discovery; "The government of Israel had promised to transfer all the real estate, properties and goods of Gush Katif to the IMF headed by James Wolfensohn." The report continued:

The same Wolfensohn in 1997, in cooperation with Shimon Peres and Yasir Arafat, founded
the Peace And Technology Fund, with $100 million in seed money. The funds were transferred
to the IMF via the Shimon Peres Center For Peace.

For those still intellectually curious, have a look at the list of Peres Center members and figure it out:

href="http://www.peres-center.org/pages/aboutus_content.asp?iGlobalVarId=3">http://www.peres-center.org/pages/aboutus_content.asp?iGlobalVarId=3

The Makor Rishon report continued:

In an IMF internal memo dated the 23rd of June 2004, and titled, "The Disengagement, The Palestinian Economy and the Settlements, it is written, among other things that, "The goal of the program is to develop the Palestinian economy and strengthen its leadership." The report notes that, "The value of assets that will be left by the Israeli government is impressive and will be of great benefit to the Palestinians of Gaza." Finally, the report recommends that the Israeli government transfer, "all deeds to the properties to the IMF," and that the Palestinians build "the proper infrastructure to absorb the largesse."

And now, the Chief Economist of the IMF, Stanley Fischer will take over The Bank Of Israel to make certain that this is done.

That Armageddon is about robbing Israel of her wealth is reflected by the following: Ezek 38:13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages will say to you, "Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?" '
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Israel is being attacked because of her wealth - See commentaries below.
* Her neighboring foes no longer molest her... The commercial nations, Sheba, Dedan, Tarshish and its villages (38:13), are also interested in this invasion [for the spoils] [Islam will probably not be a factor anymore]
(from The Wycliffe Bible Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1962 by Moody Press)

* Ezek 38:1-13
According to the project thus formed he pours in all his forces upon the land of Israel, and finds those that are ready to come in to his assistance with the same prospects (v. 9): "Thou shalt ascent and come like a storm, with all the force, and fury, and fierceness imaginable, and thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, to darken it, and to threaten it, thou and not only all thy bands, all the force thou canst bring into the field, but many people with thee" (such as are spoken of v. 13), "Sheba and Dedan, the Arabians and the Edomites, and the merchants of Tarshish, of Tyre and Sidon and other maritime cities, they and their young lions that are greedy of spoil and live upon it, shall say, Hast thou come to take the spoil of this land?" Yes he has; and therefore they wish him success. Or perhaps they envy him, or grudge it to him. "Hast thou come for riches who art thyself so rich already?" Or, knowing that God was on Israel's side, they thus ridicule his attempts, foreseeing that they would be baffled and that he would be disappointed of the prey he promised himself. Or, if he come to take the prey, they will come and join with him, and add to his forces. When Lysias, who was general of Antiochus's army, came against the Jews, the neighbouring nations joined with him (1 Mac. 3:41), to share in the guilt, in hopes to share in the prey. When thou sawest a thief then thou consentedst with him.
(from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible: New Modern Edition, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1991 by Hendrickson Publishers, Inc.)
* Ezek 38:1-13

Globalist agenda of new Bank of Israel Governor
"Barry Chamish" chamish@netvision.net.il
13 Jan 2005
http://www.barrychamish.com

STANLEY FISCHER - A MONSTER IN THE BANK OF ISRAEL
by Barry Chamish

Upon the personal recommendation of Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, The Bank Of Israel has appointed a new governor, Dr. Stanley Fischer, and he is a monster. Have a look at his bio: http://www.iie.com/fischer/cv.html

Dr. Fischer arrives in Israel from his positions of Vice-Chairman of Citigroup, the money launderer of choice of the PLO in America, and Chief Economist of The International Monetary Fund (IMF). It goes without saying that he is also a prominent member of the Bilderberg Group and the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR). The membership lists of both are hereby provided:

http://www.apfn.net/CFR.htm

http://www.bilderberg.org/2001.htm

To put Fischer's role in global mischief in perspective, we turn to the incisive American analyst, William Jasper: http://www.preteristcentral.com/articles-nwo-un_politics.htm
ECOSOC, the UN's mammoth globocracy, oversees an alphabet soup of dozens of agencies, commissions, committees, and ad hoc bodies (UNESCO, UNIDO, FAO, UNEP, WHO, IMF, UNCTAD, UNFPA, etc.) employing tens of thousands and dispensing billions of dollars worldwide. The globalists have placed their operatives in all the key posts. The World Bank, one of the UN system's pivotal power centers, is headed up by James Wolfensohn (president) and Jeffrey A. Goldstein (managing director), both CFR members and full-blown internationalists. Over at the IMF, globalist economic objectives were managed through most of the turbulent 1990s (and up to 2002) by Stanley Fischer (CFR). Mr Fischer was assisted during that time by Anne O. Krueger (CFR), who retains the No. 2 slot at IMF. The IMF and World Bank closely coordinate their lending policies with USAID, the U.S. State Department agency that handles U.S. foreign aid. At that agency, Constance B. Newman (CFR) is helping to maintain the same destructive programs promoted by earlier CFR apparatchiks like J. Brian Atwood.

They Don't Get It In Israel
For reasons not entirely understood, those Israelis fighting the Gaza sellout just can't make the connection between it and the CFR. Let's look at one example. Every week, the Women In green send out an "analysis" of local politics. For the past month the Matars, mother and daughter-in-law, have expressed amazement that their "allies" are abandoning them and supporting the Gaza surrender. One after another, their "friends" like Charles Krauthammer, Daniel Pipes, Mortimer Zuckerman and Eliott Abrams have jumped ship.

And every week, I write the ladies and point out that all are members of the CFR. With only 4000 members, how could this be a coincidence? They were never friends and now they are closing ranks behind the dismemberment of Israel. But the Women In Green are too intellectually lazy to make the obvious connection. They are simply incapable of understanding that the orders for withdrawal are coming from Manhattan. And that is why they will, 100% guaranteed, lose their struggle.

The latest "traitor" is one Hillel Halkin, a Jerusalem Post reporter who co-authored a report recommending the immediate evacuation of Gush Katif. And no one noticed that his partner was David Kimche, President of The Israeli Council On Foreign Affairs.

Somewhat surprisingly, one Israeli newspaper did make the connection between Fischer's IMF and the removal of Gush Katif from the Israeli map. On 22.10.04, David Bedein reported in Makor Rishon, that Giora Eiland, head of the Knesset National Security Committee, had made a disturbing discovery; "The government of Israel had promised to transfer all the real estate, properties and goods of Gush Katif to the IMF headed by James Wolfensohn." The report continued:
The same Wolfensohn in 1997, in cooperation with Shimon Peres and Yasir Arafat, founded
the Peace And Technology Fund, with $100 million in seed money. The funds were transferred
to the IMF via the Shimon Peres Center For Peace.

For those still intellectually curious, have a look at the list of Peres Center members and figure it out:
http://www.peres-center.org/pages/aboutus_content.asp?iGlobalVarId=3

The Makor Rishon report continued:
In an IMF internal memo dated the 23rd of June 2004, and titled, "The Disengagement, The Palestinian Economy and the Settlements, it is written, among other things that, "The goal of the program is to develop the Palestinian economy and strengthen its leadership." The report notes that, "The value of assets that will be left by the Israeli government is impressive and will be of great benefit to the Palestinians of Gaza." Finally, the report recommends that the Israeli government transfer, "all deeds to the properties to the IMF," and that the Palestinians build "the proper infrastructure to absorb the largesse."

And now, the Chief Economist of the IMF, Stanley Fischer will take over The Bank Of Israel to make certain that this is done.

But, asks the dazed Israeli, why would Netanyahu have recommended him knowing all this? My book Save Israel offers an explanation which I will only summarize here. The great patriot Netanyahu sold his soul to the CFR when he was a young student in Boston. His career was pushed by the likes of George Bush Sr., Richard Perle and George Shultz. He was appointed deputy ambassador to Washington by Moshe Arens, of the CFR's International Advisory Board, upon the recommendation of the CFR. He was later named Israeli Finance Minister to alter the country's economy according to the dictat of the CFR/IMF globalists.

Fischer is far from the first plant in the Bank of Israel. In the 1980s, Michael Bruno, later of the World Bank in Switzerland, was used to remove Menachem Begin by promoting policies which sent inflation soaring over 450%. After the Oslo Accord, Yaacov Frenkel of the World Bank/IMF was shipped from Washington to make sure that "peace" proceeded, or Israel would face economic disaster.

The CFR now has a one-two punch planted in Israel. Daniel Kurtzer will continue applying CFR diplomatic pressure as American ambassador, while Stan the Man Fischer will apply the threat of economic collapse should the Gaza withdrawal be delayed in any way.

In the end, the Sabbataian anti-Jews of the CFR, with their allies in Labor Zionism, will defeat Jewish religion and morality because the God-fearing and/or moral Jews of Israel were too arrogant, obstinate and dumb to figure out who exactly they were fighting.

end

The 2nd edition of Shabtai Tzvi, Labor Zionism And The Holocaust is now printed. And it is flawless. As promised, for those who bought the first edition at $25, with its 50 or so missing words, the new edition is yours for $10. That is cost price and I can only make this offer until the next article appears. Until then, I'll send a box of 20 for $10 each to anyone who wishes to wake up their synagogue, church or friends. After that, it's back to $25. No choice.
To celebrate the new edition, I'll offer all my books, CDs and videos for $10. But only until Jan. 21.
To hear my 90 minute lecture last May in Denver on the real "peace" process, just write me at chamish@netvision.net.il $10 will get you a two CD package. Same price for my video, Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin.

And as usual, you can order my English books; Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin, Israel Betrayed, The Last Days Of Israel and Save Israel! by writing me at the same address.
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Settlers won't be drawn into Sharon's CIVIL WAR
Topic: Sharon's Disengagement
arutz-7@list.israelnationalnews.com
Arutz-7 News: Tuesday, January 11, 2005

NRP Leader: We Won?t Participate in Sharon?s Civil War
Inside Israel
NRP leader Effie Eitam sharply castigated PM Sharon during the Knesset debate, accusing him of spurring a civil war, refusing democracy, weakening the army, and turning his back on his loyal allies.

MK Effie Eitam of the National Religious Party, wearing a bright orange shirt in solidarity with Gush Katif, attacked Prime Minister Sharon very sharply in his Knesset speech last night. Introducing his party's no-confidence motion in Prime Minister Sharon's government, Eitam said that Sharon was a "democracy refuser," is responsible for dividing the nation and for weakening the army, and is acting with ungrateful cruelty towards those who were loyal to him when he most needed it.

Excerpts:
"I must tell you, Mr. Prime Minister - and though you are not honoring us with your presence, the words will certainly reach you - that I have served the country for many years on the battlefield, and during difficult and tense moments, but I have never heard from government elements in the State of Israel such unrestrained incitement as that which was heard from your confidantes and coalition partners this week. 'Break their bones!' your confidantes whispered, and the headlines blared it. Whose bones precisely do you intend to break, Mr. Prime Minister? Those of little children? Pregnant women? Civilian protestors?

"...Are the residents of Gush Katif, Judea and Samaria truly enemies of the State who wish to destroy it, that their bones must be broken?

"And who will destroy these bones, Mr. Prime Minister? The soldiers of IDF Battalion 890, who serve as officers and soldiers, the sons and brothers of all of us, of the residents of Gush Katif and Yesha - they should lift their gun-butts and break bones?

"And then I read that we have a Vice Prime Minister [Ehud Olmert], 'Ehud the Cutter.' He says we should 'cut off their hands' - he's the Rottweiler of the government! I would like to tell you, dear Ehud, that some of these children no longer have hands or legs to cut off [a reference to the three Cohen siblings of Kfar Darom, each of whom lost a leg or foot in a terror attack four years ago - ed.].

"You, Mr. Prime Minister, are the main refuser, possibly the only real refuser in this country! You refuse to hear the voices, you refuse to see the sights, and you refuse to do the simple basic thing that your responsibility to the unity of this country and army and our society obligates you to do [i.e., hold a referendum].

"[Instead], you say, and I quote, 'The settlers are endangering the very existence of this country.' I remember many years ago when I led a group of settlers to Hawara [south of Shechem] on roads that detoured IDF checkpoints [to start a new settlement] ... and your heated car waited up there in Hawara, and you came out and patted me on the shoulder, and I felt at that moment that I was receiving a medal of valor from you. You didn't think then that our bones should be broken, or that our legs should be cut off, or that we were a danger to the State. Today I know that we were then just another naive tool along your dictatorial path that knows only one thing: Ariel Sharon.

"Your new partners in the government are, unfortunately, joining up with you. I was astonished to read of late an article by [Labor MK and former minister] Ephraim Sneh, a doctor bound by the Hippocratic Oath. He writes that it won't be so bad if we have a little civil war and some blood will be spilt...

"And I hear of a new star in our political skies, who wants to head the Labor Party, Ami Ayalon. He explains that maybe we need another Altalena [a ship carrying men and weapons in 1948 against which David Ben-Gurion ordered the IDF to open fire; some 16 were killed] in order to solidify the nation. This terrible rhetoric is simply a call to murder citizens, for bloodshed... Who is the contemptible and unbridled fool who ordered Battalion 890 to be the first and front-line force to evacuate two caravans from Yitzhar? And there is even a young armed paratrooper who thinks that he should fire into the air...

"We know for a certainty that the provocation at Yitzhar was your provocation, Mr. Prime Minister. You want a second Altalena. You want to fire the 'holy cannon' [as Ben Gurion later referred to the event] - but we won't let you.

"You can break our bones, you can cut off the hands and legs of our children, you can take advantage of the volunteer spirit of young paratroopers, to tell them that this is the main mission of the country - to get rid of two caravans from some hilltop - and to bring them to think that they should shoot at simple citizens. But we won't return fire... [We talk about restraint, against refusal], but you have your confidantes and partners in the government of cutting off, uprooting and shooting. You will not get another Altalena from us. You won't get a civil war from us, because we - the citizens whom you wish to go to war against - will not fight against our brothers the soldiers."

At this point, Knesset Speaker Ruby Rivlin interrupted and noted that during the Altalena period in 1948, the civil war was avoided because of a directive issued by Menachem Begin not to fight back.

Eitam continued, "Correct, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Maybe Ami Ayalon who wants another Altalena will learn this chapter in history...

"You, Mr. Prime Minister, are a refuser of democracy. You refuse to go to a referendum or elections. There is no country that makes a decision of this type without specific elections or a precise referendum on the question. But what do you do? You destroy the entire political framework, and turn everyone into confused marionettes. Look at the new opposition head [Shinui leader Tommy Lapid], how he is almost weeping that you left him behind. Look at your partners from United Torah Judaism who tell you that they won't support you on the disengagement. Is this the way to approach this type of move?! With an opposition that is a coalition and a coalition that is an opposition and by switching and replacing parties and coalitions as if they were socks? And then by firing ministers, and by deceiving and reneging on promises to adhere to the results of the Likud referendum?

"You can continue to barrel through one red light after another, you might run over some children on the way, maybe some houses or pregnant women - but we will stop you. We will not give in to your corruption and obtuseness.

"As a Brigadier General in the reserves, I call upon you to take the army out of this story. Firing and dismissing officers who said they object to refusal and will carry out all legal orders, but also said that it's not the function of the army to expel citizens from their homes. They said a simple truth. Why did you dismiss them? Now a witch hunt will start and you will throw out every officer who thinks differently, who wants to say something. This won't strengthen the army, it will only weaken it. It won't make the army more ethical, but will rather confuse it and divide it, and the responsibility will be upon you!

"I would like to conclude and tell you one last thing: When the investigative committees and your friends threw you out from your position as Defense Minister [following accusations against Sharon for his alleged role in the Sabra and Shatila massacres], and you spent many years here as a leper and an outcast in the political and judicial establishment, and no one sat next to you in the Knesset lounge - and we, the simple and na?ve people, were the ones who believed in you. We were your only friends and supporters. The cynicism, cruelty and obtuseness you show us in return will yet boomerang back at you - and you will be remembered, on the last page of your political history, as the man who destroyed the IDF, and the one who is liable, Heaven forbid, to destroy the State of Israel. You have many merits, but you have no right to come and burn everything merely because you were once a partner in the construction!

"We won't respond in kind to your maliciousness, and we won't respond to your violence with violence, and not to your incitement with incitement. But we will say to you clearly: If you don't listen to our call to return this decision [regarding the disengagement] to this healthy and strong nation, we will send you home, and it will be painful and shameful, erasing all your previous accomplishments."

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Leftist Labor Zionist Regime against the Jews & their land
Topic: Conspiracy
aliza@manhigut.org Manhigut Weekly Update - 10th January 2005

The Struggle for Eretz Israel and the Existence of the State Gush Katif is not just another outpost that can be evacuated one day and returned to the next. The battle for Gush Katif is a strategic one. If, G-d forbid, Gush Katif were to fall this would be liable to cause weakening in other parts of Yesha. Jonathan Bassi's job would be far easier when he comes to the Yesha settlers with proof of the destruction of Gush Katif.

No-one has illusions that Sharon's tsunami will halt in the Gush. In fact this is a battle for the entire settlement enterprise in Yesha.

But even this definition is not exact. If, G-d forbid, the settlements in Yesha are destroyed, nothing will continue to hold the remaining narrow coastal strip. The end of settlements in Yesha will destroy the Jewish hold over Eretz Israel from the moral aspect, and as a direct result also from the security, social, and economic aspects. This is therefore a struggle for a Jewish State that we can pass on to the coming generations.

Have we in fact begun to wage this struggle? More and more groups and organizations are joining in the struggle for Gush Katif. The sit-down demonstration that began this week opposite the Knesset represents an important catalyst and we congratulate the Yesha Council for organizing it. However, it is important to remember that in the end the fate of Gush Katif will be decided by thousands of responsible citizens who will be prepared to violate the law in a non-violent manner and pay the full price of a jail sentence..

A good example of this was provided by residents of Gush Katif who for two hours blocked Kaplan St. in Tel Aviv, the major traffic route leading to the Kirya. Non-violent civil disobedience is a recognized and accepted method in real democracies, and we shouldn't pay too much attention to the declarations of interested parties and Leftists..

The destruction of Yamit was a fatal mistake, but the struggle against it assumed a different character since unfortunately at that time the nation supported Begin. Begin did at least act in a democratic manner. Rabin at his time, and Sharon now, created a pattern of dictatorial and militant behavior in a superficially democratic guise. The public doesn't understand the deep meaning of what is happening, but it smells the odor of despotism and senses very well how its basic human rights are being nullified..

Sharon seeks manipulation disguised as democracy in order to continue on his militant path. We hereby clearly declare that the expulsion of Jews from Eretz Israel is obviously immoral, and is therefore obviously illegal, regardless of the forum deciding it. We are convinced that the faithful public will never obey the expulsion order..

It seems that the public atmosphere is ready for non-violent civil disobedience, and many initiatives are emerging and forming into one great step. We are talking about soldiers signing declarations that they will refuse to obey orders (see the Defensive Wall website:.
http://www.hmagen.com/); preparations being made by layers to aid the numerous political prisoners, preparations by action teams throughout the country; unequivocal declarations by important rabbis, etc..

The Creator was merciful to us when he enabled Sharon to chalk up a victory in the last Likud Conference. Now that Peres is in the picture, all the settlers have finally realized that love alone will not win, and the struggle for Gush Katif has taken the path leading to victory..

Civil War.
Those who read the articles in Ha'aretz, and listen to the Left in the media, can sense how the atmosphere is being prepared for a civil war. It is important to remember that from the Left's point of view the struggle for Gush Katif is one of to be or not be. They represent a negligible percentage of the population, who are convinced that they were born to rule, and this is their last battle before they leave the stage. If, after they have recruited (apparently by coercion) the Cossack who robbed the Likud for them, and despite being supported by all the media, the judicial system, the internal and external security establishment, the political and economic systems - if after all this Gush Katif remains standing, this means that the Left can pack its bags. Remember that when their regime is at stake, they have no inhibitions..

A civil war is the last thing to frighten the Left. They have already initiated such battles in the past (the "open season", the Altalena) and they long for such a war with all their hearts. This is a substantive part of their ideology. As the Left frequently declares, a civil war is not likely since the settlers are not their brothers. The basic orientation of a person from the extreme Left is cosmopolitan. He wishes to remove national barriers in order to prove that he is neither a Jew nor an Israeli, but a citizen of the world..

"In the future there will be no more nations. We shall form part of the new Middle East". (Shimon Peres) "There are no longer here Jews against Arabs, but supporters of peace against opponents of peace". (Yitzhak Rabin) The Left is re-drawing its lines of loyalty. This was once called treason, but now it's a sign of enlightenment. The dream of the extreme Left is that all the enlightened people of the world will join hands and crush with their jackboots the primitive religious settlers. A juicy civil war will prove to them that they have in fact crossed the borders of nationalism. They are no longer Jews, nor even Israelis, but part of the enlightened world fighting against the unenlightened one. They have demonstrated their loyalty, they have acquired with integrity their new cosmopolitan identity, just like a collaborator who perpetrates a terrorist attack in order to demonstrate loyalty. They have finally freed themselves from the stigma of Jewish identity..

A recruitment notice appears in the Peace Now website. They declare that for every soldier who refuses to participate in the eviction, they will recruit volunteers from all over the world. There is a list there of countries whose citizens are called upon to volunteer to come and destroy settlements together with enlightened Israelis. France, Germany, the Gaza Strip... We are no longer Jews. The fraternity of nations will destroy an ancient nation....

Fortunately this is a negligible minority, less than one percent of the population. The problem is that this minority is holding all the strings. They won't open fire themselves. They lust for a juicy civil war but the nation is healthy and they lack the troops to implement it. Consequently they are covertly organizing the provocation that will cause the soldiers and policemen to do this for them. This must be understood and publicized. We have to be ready for this. The more emotionally prepared for this we are, the more we talk about this, the less will be the chance of a civil war actually breaking out..

We received clear indications of the preparations for such provocation this week in the destruction of the Yitzhar outpost and the statements by GSS director Avi Dichter. Obviously the organization of the performance in Yitzhar was intended to serve a political objective. The soldier who fired was not threatened. An enquiry should be held into who exactly is this soldier. Was he an organic part of a regular unit and why did the army so quickly announce that the shot fired by that soldier was legitimate. When the Left holds the strings there is no democracy, and we all remember very well who opened the champagne..

As an immediate continuation of this terrible act, the director of the GSS announced that the extremist settlers were preparing provocations that would lead to firing against IDF soldiers. Ran Edelist, an extremist Left journalist, explained in a broadcast that Dichter has no concrete information, and his intention is to create an atmosphere in which it will be possible to make broad scale administrative arrests. Edelist didn't say this in order to protect the rights of the citizens in Yesha. He was simply convinced of the need for such action..

Consequently we are witnessing a move designed to prepare the way for opening fire. These are talks, articles, and declarations by senior officers, and all these affect the activities in the field..

How should loyal people act? The faithful public faces a terrible dilemma. It is impossible not to fight with determination on behalf of the settlements and the existence of the nation. On the other hand the Left is dragging us into a civil war and also marks the end of the State. What can we do?.

Fortunately the public is on our side. We have to remember the Likud referendum and learn this. The vast majority of the Israeli public remains healthy despite the brainwashing it is exposed to. If we do not fall into the trap of the provocations of the Left, if the soldiers don't become convinced that their lives are in danger, they will never open fire..

We have to declare on every possible occasion that in any area of friction with Israeli soldiers and policemen we are not bearing arms. If you decide to participate in the struggle, leave your weapons in a safe place outside the area..

Anyone who bears arms in the area of the struggle should be suspected of being a provocateur..

A person who fires from a group of settlers is certainly a provocateur. He should be neutralized, his weapon taken from him, and he should be tied up. Throw him out. We call on IDF soldiers to act in precisely the same way in such a situation. Soldier! Don't take a weapon with you if you enter an area of confrontation with Jews. If you see next to you a soldier firing at Jews, know that he is a political provocateur. Take away his weapon, tie him up, and throw him out..

The settlers will defend themselves with their bare hands against any organized violence. But guns are out of bounds..

If we are fired on we shall take cover, and not fire back. For years the Arabs are firing at us, we have been abandoned by the authorities, but we are continuing to hold on to Eretz Israel with great self-sacrifice. When the Left plants provocateurs to fire at us, we shall call on all our sources of spiritual strength and not fire back. This time we are not fighting to protect the country, but to protect the existence of the nation and the State. If such rules are made clear in every possible way, this will guarantee that the extremist Left will be unable to initiate a civil war between us. If we clarify this point unequivocally, any order to IDF soldiers to open fire on their loyal brothers will lead to the immediate fall of the evil regime that initiated it. We have seen numerous examples of this recently in Eastern Europe..

Is Refusal to Obey Orders a Threat to the Existence of the State?.

The argument that refusal to obey orders undermines the IDF and the State is a false one. When the Left makes such a claim there is no point in addressing the issue. The Left developed the theory of refusal to obey orders, and gave it full legitimacy. To our shame, some people in the national camp also support this foolish argument..

The Rambam, in Hilchot Melachim, said that: "It need hardly be said that if the king orders any of the Mitzvot of the Torah to be violated, he is not to be obeyed". This is not a simple Halachic ruling. The opening "It need hardly be said", means that some things are quite obvious. It is quite clear that we must refuse to obey an immoral order that conflicts with the Torah. This need hardly be said. This order should not be obeyed, even according to the IDF rules of conduct..

Actually, someone who does not act in this way is responsible for destroying the State and society. Over the course of history, obedience and disregarding of conscience on the part of the individual has led to the degeneration of society, to the rise of evil regimes, and to distorted norms of behavior. People have freedom of choice and responsibility. Those who did not refuse to obey orders and did not attempt to oppose Rabin now bear responsibility for the march of death that followed the Oslo process. They cannot look their children in the eyes and claim that they were only small bolts in the machine, simple citizens..

"When the regime is evil, jail is the refuge of honest people", said Jefferson, one of the founding fathers of the American nation. The obedient person who ignores his own conscience loses his country, his property, and in the end his life. Thousands in Israel have already paid the price of obedience to the Oslo criminals. Only refusal to obey orders will save the country, property, and lives..

The question is not how orders can be disobeyed in a democratic country, but how a person can permit himself not to disobey in such circumstances..

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Updated: Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:57 PM

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An article goes with it about the reason why the Bush Presidents want Israel off the Golan.

Please visit the site, it is an extremely important "revelation."

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Rabin was murdered over Golan by French_US knew
West Bank SECRETS OF THE GOLAN
by Barry Chamish
http://thetruthonly.narod.ru/Barry_Golan_01.htm
In January 1996, the business magazine section of the Tel Aviv-based daily newspaper Globes published a four part series revealing a profoundly important fact that was unexplainably ignored: Israel has legal title over a large chunk of the Golan Heights and Western Syria. In the 1890s, Baron Rothschild purchased 20,000 acres of Syrian land owned by the Ottoman empire. In 1942, the Syrian government illegally confiscated the land. The Baron transferred the deeds to the Jewish National Fund (JNF) in 1957. In 1992, the deeds were moved to the Prime Minister's Office where they are stored today.

After I read the series, I called a contact in the JNF, Bunny Alexandroni of the public relations department. She said she'd look into the matter and called me back. She informed me that she couldn't comment on the Globes series but asked me to meet her at her office. An appointment was made and she told me that her boss, the director of her department, would talk to me if I agreed not to publish his name. After so agreeing, I entered his office and he invited me to be seated.

He explained, "The Globes articles were essentially correct. They were a bit off on the location of the Rothschild land. Some of it is in the Golan but most is in the Horan, in Syria itself.

I informed the government that the deeds are an excellent bargaining chip with the Syrians but the government refuses to play it. My hands are tied. I've been instructed not to pursue the matter." And that is the biggest secret of the Golan: the Israeli government is holding onto legal title to land in the Golan and beyond and is hiding the fact from the public.

Of course, the first question would be, why?

What follows is a chronological explanation of how the current Israeli-Syrian "peace" talks came to be. For those who are unable to dramatically readjust their sense of reality, it is advised to simply stop reading and make do with the knowledge of the land titles. They are more than enough to assure that Israel remains atop the Golan Heights. For those willing to accept a drastic switch in point of view, keep reading.

December 1990 - President George Bush invites Syria to join his coalition of forces to fight Iraq. The only offer Syria will respond to is a promise that America will use its power to remove Israel from the Golan Heights.

Bush's administration has already secretly transferred $5.5 billion to Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and is in constant contact with him. Before the first shot of the Persian Gulf War is fired, Hussein agrees to bombard Israel with Scud missiles. In return, he is promised that no matter what the outcome of the war, he will not be brought down, nor will Israel respond to the attacks.

Bush promises Syria a bombardment that will prove to the Israeli people that territory will not protect them in the age of missiles. Later America will put the squeeze on the Shamir government to relinquish the Heights. Syria accepts the terms and joins the coalition.

Summer 1991 - Bush organizes a conference in Madrid to put international pressure on the Shamir government to leave the Golan. Shamir refuses to budge. Bush meets Syrian President Assad in Geneva. There Assad says he's running out of patience with Bush and threatens to take matters into his own hands before the upcoming American elections. Bush promises that he will use all his power to remove Shamir from office and bring in a more compliant government.

June 23, 1992 - Bush's strategy of withholding loan guarantees and demonizing Shamir succeeds and Yitzhak Rabin becomes Israeli Prime Minister. Bush demands an immediate Golan withdrawal and Rabin explains that it is politically out of the question for him.

September 10, 1992 - Foreign Minister Shimon Peres meets French President Mitterand and Foreign Minister Roland Dumas in Paris and agrees to promote a total Golan withdrawal. He wants to meet with Syrian FM Farouk Shara immediately. Peres returns to Israel and Rabin meets him at Ben Gurion Airport. He orders Peres to stay away from the French, loudly calling them, "the biggest bastards." Too late for Rabin. Two days later Dumas begins a shuttle between Damscus and Cairo to coordinate Peres's Golan withdrawal.

September 17, 1992 - Rabin is called to Kennebunkport, Maine where an agitated Bush lays down the law. He must neutralize Peres's French track and "prepare the Israeli people for painful withdrawals," first from the Golan and then the West Bank and Gaza. He demands that the Golan withdrawal be coordinated with a compliant military leader, IDF Chief Of Staff Ehud Barak. Rabin returns to Israel and announces his Syria First peace program.

September 23, 1993 - Syria is put on the back burner by the new Clinton administration, while negotiations with the PLO are taking place. Once Rabin inks a deal with Arafat, the White House begins its campaign for a Golan treaty. A meeting is set up between Chief Of Staff Ehud Barak and VP Al Gore to get the track going.

November 12, 1993 - An international race is on to see who can get Israel off the Golan first. On the same day that Rabin is in Washington, accompanied secretly by Ariel Sharon, Peres is in France meeting with his French counterpart Alain Juppe. The Washington meetings go badly. The biggest sticking point is Syria's demand that as part of a peace deal, Israel give up its nuclear weapons program. While Rabin and Sharon refuse to accede, Peres shows no such compunctions.

December 6, 1993 - Secretary of State Warren Christopher flies to Damascus for a meeting with Syrian VP Hassan Habibi and most telling, with Jordanian Hamas leader Ibrahim Rusha. Syria lays down the law. The French have made a better offer and unless America moves Rabin in the same direction, Syria will promote a Hamas overthrow of the PLO regime in Gaza and the West Bank. Syria offers Hamas's violent talents for a terror campaign to remove Rabin from power in favor of Peres. Christopher relays the threats to Clinton and a summit between Assad and the American president is arranged for the following month.

January, 1994 - Clinton and Assad meet in Geneva. Arafat, apprised of the plot against him, rushes to Geneva where the Swiss authorities refused to grant him an entrance visa. Clinton promises Assad a total Golan retreat and Rabin reacts with furor. He announces that any Golan deal would now be subject to a public referendum and appoints his Deputy Defence Minister, Motta Gur, to introduce a referendum bill in the Knesset.

May, 1994 - Peres orders his Foreign Ministry staff to prepare a plan for the evacuation of Jewish residents of the Golan and presents it to Mitterand with a request for an immediate meeting with the Syrians. The Syrians now want Rabin out and Peres in and plan a strategy to achieve the goal.

July, 1994 - Assad finally takes matters in his own hands and orders the bombing of the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires. Over a hundred Jews die. Syria's responsibility is traced conclusively by two Argentinian journalists. The suicide bomb vehicle is rented with currency traced to Damascus. Rabin is ordered by his American bosses to cover up Syria's role in the atrocity and Israel shifts blame to Iran.

October 17, 1994 - The repercussions of Buenos Aires does not budge Rabin, so Syria orders a strike closer to home. A bus explodes in Tel Aviv killing 23. The same day, Palestinian radio station in Damascus gives full detail's of the blast's methodology, two days before Israel police confirmed the accuracy of the report.

November, 1994 - With Syria living up to its threats to remove Rabin, Clinton initiates a Damascus-Jerusalem shuttle. Rather than softened by the slaughter of Jews, Rabin was furious and his position on Syria hardened. Clinton finally relents and agreed to replace Rabin with a more compliant candidate, Ehud Barak.

December, 1994 - Peres takes a major step towards realizing his Golan plan and invited Germany and Japan to place troops on the Heights after withdrawal went into effect.

January, 1995 - Ehud Barak quits his post as Chief Of Staff. A month later he meets with Warren Christopher in Jerusalem to plan his future.

March - June, 1995 - Barak flies to Washington and immediately begins negotiations with the Syrian peace-talks delegation. He promises a total Golan withdrawal if he becomes Prime Minister. He spends the rest of his trip planning his accession to power and understanding his role as envisioned by the Council On Foreign Relations. He holds meetings with CFR executives Henry Kissinger, Lawrence Tisch and Edgar Bronfman. They vow to finance his campaign. Barak announces that the triumvirate agreed to finance his new "business" career to the tune of $30 million.

July, 1995 - Barak returns to Israel and Rabin appoints him Interior Minister. Motta Gur is dead, supposedly of a suicide caused by depression over his cancer. His physician says that can't be, his disease was in total regression and he had everything to live for.

October 20, 1995 - The CFR has gotten wind of a French plot to murder Rabin and replace him with Peres. They decide to give Rabin a last chance. At the UN's 50th anniversary ceremony, Christopher and special advisor Dennis Ross remind Rabin that he promised a withdrawal to the shores of Lake Kinneret. They want him to meet with Shara and live up to his commitment. Rabin loses his cool and lets loose a loud and ugly rant against both of them. He shouts that he made the Kinneret comment sarcastically and they knew it. He threatens to pull out of the whole peace process. One by one, CFR members like Bronfman, Kissinger and Clinton try to sway Rabin. He gives his answer on the UN podium the next day, telling the assembled that he comes from Jerusalem, the undivided capital of Israel and that the real problem in his region wasn't Israel's stubbornness, it was Arab terrorism. The next day he flew to Washington and oversaw the passage of two Congressional bills which effectively neutralized the Oslo process. One bill declared that Jerusalem would never be divided, the other cut off American aid to the PLO if it declared a state. The Americans decided to keep Rabin ignorant of the French plot against him. Peres had to be next in line anyway before Barak could replace him.

Nov. 7, 1995 - The leaders of the Anglo-American and European regimes descended on Rabin's funeral. With Rabin safely entombed, the squeeze began to neutralize the French victory. John Major and Prince Charles arrange a meeting at Orient House for Peres to negotiate directly with Assad by phone. He turns the meeting down. However, he did promise Clinton an immediate withdrawal from the South Lebanon security zone and without an ounce of sentiment for Rabin's mourning period, the president sends Ross shuttling between Assad and Peres. Assad turns down Peres's limited offer and Clinton demands a major concession: Peres agrees to appoint his bitter rival, Barak, as his Foreign Minister and campaign manager for the next national elections.

January, 1996 - Rabin's most precious Golan secret was leaked in detail to the business newspaper Globes. Israel had legal title to 20,000 acres of Syrian territory, some of it on the Golan Heights. The media is instructed to bury the story.

February - May, 1995 - Barak and the Americans sabotage Peres's election campaign through a combination of deliberate incompetence, suicide bombers and a mini-war in Lebanon which cost Peres the Arab vote. Peres loses and millions of dollars are funnelled to Barak's successful campaign to take over the leadership of the Labor Party. The price was Netanyahu's victory and immediately a campaign of scandal mongering begins to force him from power. Netanyahu survives the scandals, and freezes the Golan withdrawal, until the Americans invest their money and talents to assuring Barak's election in May, 1999.

November, 1999 - On the fourth anniversary of Rabin's murder, the public demands to know how he really died. Indisputable proof that the convicted assassin could not have shot the fatal bullets was in the hands of tens of thousands of people. My book with the documents within is number three on the bestseller list. Rabin's wife and two children demand a new investigation of his assassination. 65% of the public support their demand. A huge issue was needed to quell the fast-spreading public campaign to reinvestigate Rabin's demise. The truth would explode the whole peace process and incriminate the current leadership in atrocious crimes. A replacement murder scandal involving publisher Ofir Nimrodi works for a week but something far more lasting and devastating was required. An impending withdrawal from the Golan Heights does the trick.
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State of Israel - Democracy

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23 Nov 2004
Totalitarianism of Ideas
By Moshe Feiglin
Israel is apparently a democratic country, and those who dispute this are not taken seriously. Every few years we all put a voting slip in the ballot box, the various parties compete for our votes, the elected representatives take up their new jobs, the losers give up theirs. So how can it be argued that Israel isn't a democracy? However, a strong sense of totalitarianism is felt by a broad section of the public.
Some people associate this feeling with external defects in the Israeli method of government, an accusation that is well justified. Israel is one of the few countries in the world in which regional elections are not held, so that the elected representative is not obligated to the voter but to his party. Furthermore, the judicial branch in Israel is in fact an oligarchy far above the people, that appoints and perpetuates itself, promotes values and interests remote from the basic values of the nation, and makes increasing inroads into the prerogatives of the legislative branch. Consequently the gut feeling regarding the real nature of Israeli democracy is well founded.

However, the method of government is only a symptom of the problem. Israeli totalitarianism is not one of people. A far more sophisticated form of repression is involved - totalitarianism of ideas.

Let's imagine a game with dice. Each child in turn tosses the dice, and records the results. To their surprise the children see that they get the same result all the time. They realize that something is wrong, and decide to check the dice. It turns out that the same number appears on all the faces.

This is more or less what happens in Israeli democracy. You can go and vote, or in other words participate in the game and throw the dice. You can replace the people in government, thus allowing the dice to fall in a different way from the previous time. But you can't change the number appearing. On all faces of the Israeli dice the same ideas are engraved.

On four different occasions the national camp has created an alternative leadership to the Left. In the first turnaround in 1977 Menahem Begin came to power.

Begin, an ideologist of the first rank, promised to set up "many Alonei Moreh", and then rapidly handed over all of Sinai, destroyed an Israeli city and an entire region of settlements. He was succeeded by Shamir, who valiantly resisted the continuation of the drift, but was in the end enticed into agreeing to the Madrid Conference, that formed the opening for the Oslo process.

Netanyahu, a gifted person, was elected in order to halt the madness of Oslo. This time also the dice fell on the right side from the personal aspect, and Peres lost the contest - but the result was the continuation of precisely the same process.

The last to appear in the gallery of leaders of the right was Ariel Sharon, the great general and builder of the country. He contested Mitzna, who supported unilateral withdrawal. Here also Sharon won personally, but implemented the ideas of his defeated opponent.

These four leaders were not trivial figures. Apart from Ben-Gurion, the Left has never succeeded in putting forward leaders having such ideology, persistence, ability, military record, and capability of getting things done.

It seems that in Israel the voters can choose between people (if only to a limited extent) but not between ideas. We need hardly say that democracy is designed to permit choosing between different people, in order to advance different ideas. The moment this principle was eliminated from Israeli public life, democracy turned into a means of handing out power and benefits. This is the explanation of the despair and lack of trust displayed by Israeli society towards its elected representatives and its democratic system. This is also the reason for the contempt displayed by the Prime Minister for the most fundamental principles of a democratic regime, for the aid he receives from the media and the judicial system for this behavior, and the inability of public opinion to influence this dictatorship.

The Left claims that because the Right is in the end always forced to implement their policy, this proves the correctness of their views. It has been demonstrated repeatedly that not only is the Right unable to act otherwise, but in fact does not possess, and never has possessed, another ideology.

The national camp certainly has different intentions, and has authentic links with Eretz Israel and its Jewish identity. But it has never had an ideological basis permitting it to meet the challenges presented by reality to the Jewish people in this country.

The fundamental tenet of Zionism, based on solution of the Jewish problem by means of a state awarding it entry to the family of nations - that is, by becoming a nation like all the others - is common to both the Right and the Left. The Left has attempted to implement this solution by blurring the distinction between nations ("integration in the region", to quote Shimon Peres). Jabotinsky wished to implement this solution using a diametrically opposed approach - integration in the family of nations by nationalist self-determination.

In one way or another, the people in Israel can only choose a single idea - that of being a nation like all the others.

The religious parties don't even participate in the game, since they propose a religion divorced from history, not a culture acting inside it.

Manhigut Yehudit is currently acting inside the national framework created by Jabotinsky. Obviously this framework is based on a real concept of nationalist self- determination, but the Jewish people is not just another nation. It has an exceptional history, other roots, and a different objective. The Jewish spirit introduced by Manhigut Yehudit creates a new idea. If the idea succeeds in advancing and presenting itself for real choice, Israel will cast off the chains of the totalitarianism of ideas and become a democracy, or more precisely a state of liberty.

(For more on this subject, view the article Democratic, Because it's Jewish: http://www.zionet.co.il/manhigut/en/view_article_manhigut_en.php3?article_id =425.)

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